After Dark Magazine Interview, September, 1973
SOMETHING ABOUT HER EYES- A VISIT WITH CAROL KANE by Lewis Furey
April 9
Montreal
Carol phoned from New York. After Dark wants a
piece on her...can I do it? Sounds great to me. She was asked today to do an Italian-American
co-production movie by Nanni Loy, director of Divorce Italian Style.
April
10
Montreal
Bill Como says he'd love for me to do the piece. I'll leave for
New York tomorrow. Carol went back to see Mr. Loy; next visit he wants her to come
in tight blue jeans; he wants to get a good view of her in character costume.
April
11
Eastern Airlines Flight 103
I first met Carol at Professional Children's
School. I was in my senior year and she was a freshman: fourteen, in short skirts
and Courreges boots; singing, dancing and acting. She tried out for The Prime
of Miss Jean Brodie all that year, got pretty suicidal about it, and started
dressing in black. She was studying with Bill Hickey at the Herbert Berghof Studios.
Her mother is a dancer, eurythmics teacher, and songstress; her father, a successful
architect who designed a couple of high schools, fancy private homes, housing for
banana workers in underdeveloped countries, and won a Fulbright. They'd lived in
Cleveland, Paris, and Haiti before moving to New York.
It was about a year and
a half before Carol's career got going. She finally landed a part in her much-desired
Brodie and went on the road with Tammy Grimes forever.
She's only twenty
now- and worked hard to get there.
April 11
New York
Norma Stoop met
Carol for the first time this evening. Bill was making spaghetti. Norma said, "Carol,
you wre painted by Botticelli." There is hardly a person involved in the visual
arts who doesn't flash just that. Carol's beauty is soft and very painterly.
She is quiet and sensitive; easily hurt. She's friendly and warm, usually in a child-like
way. She can appear to be beautiful or plain; she will be submissive and yet stubborn;
the dichotomies in her nature may sometimes be manic, but they are always low-key.
Carol is an actor. She is image-conscious but aesthetic. She has a poet's ease with
the introverted side of herself. She may appear to be a loser or a star, a dreamer
or a worker, very high but always with feet touching the ground.
She can be
loose with those she loves. And she loves those who touch her at her center. To find
her center is to love her. To try to describe her center is to fail. All that I've
been trying to say, Carol says in any frame of her movies.
I loved Wedding
in White: saw it twice. The second time I enjoyed it more. The pace is plodding,
the dramatic unfolding inevitable. It was with this knowledge that I enjoyed myself
so thoroughly the second time. Fruet (writer-director), Leiterman (director of photography),
Carol, Donald Pleasence, and Doris Petrie are loving and honest in their attention
to detail. This is the kind of work that helps us learn to see- which makes us want
to learn.
The film won the Canadian "Best Picture{ award this year.
L:
what do you think about the film?
C: i want it to be better. 'cause of time and
money pressures we couldn't work as sensitively as i would have liked. the producers
got the film in for under a quarter of a million dollars. there was not a womb-like
feeling on the set or the sense of security i felt working with mike on carnal
knowledge. working delicately demands that. it's good work, but could have been
even better.
Working with Pleasence and Doris Petrie was good experience. she
describes much of her work in those terms. Richard Leiterman, according to Carol,
was one of the essential reasons for the film's poser and uniqueness. He contributed
much of the knowledge of film technique. He and Bill Fruet formed a solid team, working
to get the desired performances and battling the union in order to finish their film.
She wants to work again and again with the same people, building very much a communal
working group.
Jack Nicholdon is one of Carol's favorite actors. She was with
him in Mike Nichols' Carnal Knowledge and again in Hal Ashby's Last Detail.
Although hers were not leading roles in either picture, she felt a total and
scrupulous involvement with each film and with the other actors.
Nicholson is
an actor who she feels is remarkable in his ability to tap explicitly and specifically
his emotional range with the knowledge of how to channel those emotions on film.
Carol feels he has helped her find ways to involve the audience and make them attentive
to detail. One look form an actor can help the whole audience to see.
You hear
the same complaint from Carol so common to young actors today: you can no longer
work twenty-five films a year- the Hollywood heyday is a time past. Therefore there
is a tremendous pressure to do it all on your first few films. Actors like Carol
want to act more than want to be stars.
April 12
New York
Well, in
buzzes the Italian art director at 10:30 in the morning. I'm in my underwear- Watson
whites- and Carol's in her flannel nightgown. He's beautifully done up in St. Tropez
blues, silver hair, and as dashing as Mastroianni. Wardrobe consultation and some
image particulars for Carol on the movie.
Art Director: you spoke already with
the director; he told you what you have to do.
C: well, not a great deal
Art
Director: not a great deal. alright. now you are practically the daughter of a very,
very rich man and a person who probably lives in san francisco, but you don't like
the family, you didn't like the way they live, so you have become a hippie girl and
you are involved with another guy who is a basketball player, a very good one, a
very famous one. now the only thing you need is just one clothes. it must be blue
jeans and something on top. we will shoot in reno the moment, so it will be sunburnt,
so it must be something light, right?
C: the thing that i don't know a great deal
about is the character, so that i don't have a clear idea of what exactly she would
be wearing, do you have an idea?
Art Director: i just told you
C: emotionally
Art
Director: nothing. a really blue jeans.
Later
C: It's so crazy...reno
with the italians and you were writing about it.
L: it's not really so strange
C:
yes, it is
L: let's not get self-conscious
C: is it not bizarre that an italian
director should cast me as a girl who emotionally is nothing and just wiggles her
ass and goes about getting divorced and traveling in private planes?
L: well.....
April
13
New York
L: i'm in the sun
C: the sun is coming in
L: the sun makes
me lazy
C: i hate it
L: i love it. i'm a cat. what are you?
C: you're a
cat?
L: yeah
C: i guess i'm probably...what am I"
L: a porpoise
C:
i don't know what i am. i'm a cat, i guess
L: i don't think so, not if you don't
like lying in the sun.
C: the thing is i feel guilty lazing about doing nothing;
i'm a cat with a guilt lazing about doing nothing; i'm a cat with a guilt complex;
would you move over so i can lie down too.
She woke me this morning with
a giggly, soft hello, orange juice, ciagarette, scambled eggs, and honeyed toast.
Old flannel floral-print nightgowns she wears like drapery; her hair hangs incredibly
loose (it's the thickest, most playful hair.) She kisses her Tarryton king-size and
blows the smoke far away. Then kisses me gently.
We're near the park on West
75th in big rooms on a great long block of houses. The mornings at Carol's are light
(and full of plans these days, busy days).
L: what's up for today?
C:
we can just luxuriate in our interviewing
L: what a wonderful excuse for talking
about ourselves endlessly and feeling productive.
C: y'know leonard says, the
only thing which interests me is am i or am i not alone in your love?
L: it's
terrible in a way
C: what a question to ask someone without first supplying your
part of the answer.
April 14
New York
C: i like this couch. it's a comfortable
couch. we can see the vodka bottle.
L: the vodka bottle? i notice you've been
hitting that bottle
C: that bottle! i've only had one drink from that particular
bottle...before the late movie last night. i fell asleep before it was over. lillian
gish was in it.
L: who said saomething terrible about you and lillian gish?
C:
some reviewer on tv in toronto.
L: something about your eyes being an imitation...
C:
she has such wonderful eyes. do you want to see lillian gish in broken blossoms?
L:
no
C: what a boring person you are
L: she looks like you
C: you don't want
to look at people who look like me?
L: i know what she looks like already. i never
had to see garbo because i knew viva so well
C: and jane hallaren, y'know jane
roomed with viva for a while
L: when jane looks down and inward she's just like
garbo; not when she smiles.
C: oh well, when i smile i look like bugs bunny
L:
that's not so
C: it is; i have bugs bunny teeth
L: when you swoon you look
like lillian gish, when you smile you look like bugs bunny
C: when i swoon? do
i swoon a lot? what do you mean swoon? when i swoon i look like who...vincent price,
elsa lanchester in bride of frankenstein
L: no, lillian gish
C: oh,
lewis, what are we doing tonight? i'd like to go peter bogdanovich's lecture. my
hair gets full of dust, do you know that?
L: yeah, and you're getting a little
cross-eyed
C: oh no i'm not
L: a little bit
C: no, don't tell me about it.
am i really
L: i think it's 'cause of all that hair
C: no, wait a minute, lewis,
before i ever look at you again, have you noticed this before today?
L: no
C:
you are, then i'm going to be cross-eyed and my career ended at such an early age.
L:
there are parts for cross-eyed ladies with long blonde hair.
C: not a hell of
a lot
gentle endings
the world has given me
gentle endings
with candlelight
weave
past
me, sleep
with me
i weeave them by
my hair, the cares
i choose to give
you
gentle endings.
where the child i hold
where the poem
i build,
where
the womb
of silk
i mold as i let go
of all
to flow through
another
gentle ending
Carol Kane