Interview from In Theater Magazine, 10-30-1998
'Amanda Plummer does not give interviews. Sure, she meets with reporters and answers
questions, but this is no ordinary Q&A. This is a performance - a quirky, amusing,
occasionally bewildering but wholly intriguing performance. That's not to say that
Plummer, currently starring with Scott Glenn in Tracy Letts' Killer Joe at
the Soho Playhouse, is insincere. On the contrary, she is entirely genuine - disarmingly
so. It's just that anyplace, even the private dining room at a Soho restaurant, becomes
an inadvertent stage for someone like Plummer, whose dark eyes and angular, frail-but-tough
appearance radiate intensity even in those rare moments when she's sitting still.
Mostly, however, this is an active show: The 42 year old actress slouches and
slumps, sliding in her chair before leaning forward intently; she interrupts herself
to jump up and grab cigarettes from her coat. Her hands gesticulate constantly, waving,
banging the table, or acting as a telescope. Even her voice is constantly on the
move: She sounds almost childlike in tone, and her speech is sometimes tinged with
a slight Texas accent carried over from the play. There are long pauses and hearty
laughs, demure and insecure whispers of sentence fragments, and salty tirades punctuated
by giggles as if she's astonished at her own outburst. Her answers are thoughtful,
but concrete thoughts can become abstract rambles that stretch until Plummer gets
lost in her own verbal meandering.
The daughter of stage stars Christopher Plummer
and Tammy Grimes -she lived with her mother from the age of two, after the couple
divorced. Plummer had a string of early successes, but has been absent from the New
York theater scene since she moved to Los Angeles in 1990. She won an Outer Critics
Circle Award and Drama Desk and Tony nominations in 1982 for a A Taste of Honey,
followed by the title role in Agnes of God, which brought her Drama Desk, Outer Critics
Circle, and Tony Awards. But after roles in such movies as The World According to
Garp and Daniel, and more Broadway starring roles opposite Jessica Tancy in The Glass
Menagerie and another Tony nomination in 1987 for Pygmalion, her career stalled in
the late '80's, prompting her West Coast relocation.
"I moved because the
plays weren't there for the kind of actor that I was - I wasn't being cast, nor did
I think I was castable in any of the things that were being done" she says.
Her voice rising, she blasts theatrical producers for what she saw as commercial
greed and "so little faith in the intelligence of [theatergoers]."
In California, Plummer's movie career revived, most notably with parts like the shy
Lydia in The Fisher King and Honey Bunny- the wannabee robber- in Pulp Fiction, with
a few oddballs thrown in like Eunice, a sadistic, homicidal, bisexual ranter in Butterfly
Kiss- directed by boyfriend Paul Chart.
But she's "been dying to do theater",
and was drawn to Killer Joe- the violent saga of a maladjusted Texas trailer park
family besiged by drugs and murder - not so much by her role as by "the piece
itself; the way it was written". Pinning her down on specifics, however, is
like asking President Clinton to define sexual relations. Plummer thinks. She squirms.
She pauses. Finally, she launches into an answer: "When you see something as
a whole, whole, whole, the entire thing has to work to create that first impression
I got when I read it It doesn't mean that I understood it, it doesn't mean that I
identify with it- it was so attractive, and it had so much music to it, and it was
the writing, the writing." But stick with her, and Plummer - who plays an evil
stepmother- eventually finds her way to a keen insight. Letts' play is "not
trying to appease or manipulate the audience; he's not trying to make people react
a certain way." Plummer also praises Letts for a lack of sentimentality. "There's
a lot of complaining I've noticed in new writing." she says, her voice suddenly
sharp with anger. "[Letts] has none of that sour grapes bullshit that has no
business on stage."
Plummer claims she has been trying to shed her rust
and find a groove on stage. But director Wilson Milam says it's impossible to tell
she's been away for so long. Milam has been struck by her 'honesty and commitment',
her 'ferocity.' and her 'capacity to startle - she's always surprising but always
very real'.
And Letts is impressed at how open the star is to others' ideas.
'I'm sure she has an ego, but you don't see it,' he says. Co-star Marc A Nelson calls
Plummer 'one of the hardest working actresses I've ever met - she's really exploring.'
Exploration seems to be central to Plummer's persona. As a child growing up in New
York, with chunks of time spent in New Hampshire and Ireland (???), she was always
writing, usually poetry, and fantastical stories. She loved horses, even becoming
a qualified jockey, but while she never openly announced her ambitions, Plummer loved
acting as well. She respects both her parents' stage skills - muttering "Jesus....Jesus"
to express her adulation of her father - but has "a desire to be respectfully
unlike them."
Plummer has always been excitable. "I have an exaggerated
spirit" she says, and she can be "incredibly moved" even by inanimate
things. Not surprisingly, she passionately loves opera. "I dance to opera the
way you dance to rock", she says, a scenario easily conjured up. "I have
an attachment to the absurd, and that keeps me happy," she says, beginning a
riff on how she sees the world. Like Keaton or Chaplin, she's fascinated by her physical
surroundings. "A person and a table can have such a dialogue that it's incredible,
depending on the space that exists between them,", she says, adding that these
observations often subconsciously inform her work.
But unlike Chaplin or Keaton,
Plummer doesn't see herself attaining superstardom - or even wanting it. "I
wouldn't be able to function; I'm a backdoor actor", she says, wandering first
into a horse racing analogy and then off the point to her days as a relay runner,
when she'd come from behind on the last leg. "I was a catcher upper," she
says. She describes the race visually, her hands becoming the runners as she spins
around in her chair, growing breathlessly excited as they near the finish line. Pushing
yourself "to get that place where you've got got more is the most exciting place",
she says.
While her train of though switched tracks, the monologues switched
tracks, the monologues reveal another compelling side of Plummer - her perfectionism
as an actor. She does push herself, remaining especially vigilant in trying to rid
herself of habits - "the older you get the more habits you get," she says.
"You have to continually be getting rid of them." When she was younger,
she could shake each habit as it developed - "I was neck and neck with them,"
she says, "but they're nasty little buggers, they're almost separate things."
"The worst thing, of course, is praise - it'll kill ya" she declares, because
it reinforces those acting tricks. Still, she's conflicted and contradictory about
being a perfectionist. "I don't think it's a good thing to be," she says,
because every role is a struggle. But moments later, she says that's what keeps her
developing. So ultimately, she's "grateful that I have the inability to feel
content."'
STUART MILLER recently profiled adobe theater company for
In Theater.