FOURTEENTH GENERATION
9541. unknown (F)
(4770) Thomas Burgess's yDNA is as follows:
Haplogroup DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS DYS H4 YCA YCA DYS DYS DYS DYS CDY CDY DYS DYS Modal Haplotypeof Thomas Burgess b. 1602/03 of Sandwich, Barnstable, MA R1b1b2a1a OGAP-38 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 16 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 18 17 38 38/ 11 12
393
390
19/
394
391
385a
385b
426
388
439
389-1
392
389-2
458
459a
459b
455
454
447
437
448
449
464a
464b
464c
464d
460
IIa
IIb
456
607
576
570
A
B
442
438
39
R1b1b2a1a*
(formerly R1b1c9 & R1b1b2g*) is also known as R-P310. It has four subclades: R1b1b2a1a1, R1b1b2a1a2, R1b1b2a1a3 and R1b1b2a1a* aka U106/R-S21.R/L44. The last-named alone accounts for over 25% of all R1b in the world, so the yDNA data can only help us in the "negative" sense of sayig which Burgess families Thomas WASN'T part of -- provided that those other families have their yDNA well described, which most don't.
Bryan Sykes's Oxford Genetic Atlas Project (OGAP) categorizes the the R1b haplotypes of Britain into sub-clades, of which (4770) Thomas Burges's is in the fairly small OGAP-38. This group is closely akin to OGAPS-7, which isdistributed mainly in Southern England. This lends weight to the notion that Thomas came from Cornwall, but equally suggests that he might have come from London, Kent, Sussex or Hampshire -- where there were many Burgess families in 1891.
REF: www.jogg.info/31/campbell.pdf
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Most online genealogies of this family go back to Truro, Cornwall; but they are incorrect:
"...Current wisdom is that (4770) Thomas Burgess was the son of Thomas Burgess Jr. of Truro, Cornwall, and his wife Elizabeth Pye. He was the son of Thomas Burgess and Honour Sydenham (usually spelled Sidnam in America) and the grandson of Ellis Burgess and Catherine Corniche. All of this comes from the Heralds Visitation of Cornwall in 1620 and various Burgess, Sydenham and other wills. If so his father was the mayor of Truro and either his father, or grandfather was a member of Parliament for Truro in the first and last Parliaments of James I (Puritan parliaments).
There is a serious, but not necessarily fatal flaw in this. The records of the Church of St. Mary Magdalen in Truro (where George Phippen was rector and the Burgesses worshiped) all survive. They do list the birth of a Thomas Burgess at about the correct time to Thomas Burgess Jr. and Elizabeth Pye. The problem is that they also list the death of a Thomas Burgess as an infant, and in the will of Thomas Burgess Jr. he mentions a son Thomas as a minor (too young to be our Thomas).
"The only hope for this line is that the death notice at St. Mary's does not call the father of the infant "Thomas Burgess Jr." as he is called in all the other parts of the record, families do use a name twice and our Thomas may have already married, or left the country by this time. Joe Burgess argues that the Truro family was literate (the elder Thomas signs his will) and Thomas Burgess of Sandwich signs his name with the letter "T" as his mark, and that makes this connection unlikely....
--Dean Burgess, 29 August 2000 c/o http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=glencoe&id=I6470 "...in the will of the latter Thomas [husb. of Eliz. Pye, of Truro], written 22 April 1626, his son Thomas was listed last of six sons who had not yet "accomplished the age of one and twenty," suggesting that he was the youngest, born probably not much before 1613 and quite likely several years later. This conclusion was supported by the 1620 Visitation of Truro, listing no Thomas among the children of Thomas and Elizabeth (Pye) Burgess."
-- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~thesays/joan/pafn14.htm |
9550. William Brewster IV, Elder
"BREWSTER, ...(9550) WILLIAM, Plymouth, the famous Elder, claim. of liberal Christians everlast. gratitude, as the earliest of disting. Puritan laymen in Eng,. came in the Mayflower, 1620, with his w. two younger s. the w. of the eldest, and her s. William. He was b. 1563 (prob. but earlier by some computa.) at Scrooby, in Nottinghampsh. at the manor hall of wh. vill. belong. to the archbp. of York, he afterwards long resid. the same house at wh. Cardinal Wolsey had made his last stop, bef. reach. home in his final journey, on compulsory retirement from court, after banishm. by King Henry VIII. thirty yrs. earlier.
"His f. [[vol. 1, p. 246]] prob. (19100) William, was tenant under liberal lease from archbp. Sandys, and the s. was educ. some time at Cambridge Univ. and his f. bec. as subtenant of Scrooby manor, the possessor of that very resid. of the Cardinal, and the s. therein worship. God accord. to the simple forms of the chief protestants of Protestantism. After very honora. serv. with Davidson, secr. of Queen Elizabeth he partook in the fall of that statesman, the conseq. of the Queen's heartless deception and treachery; and abandon. 1587, political life.
"Devot. hims. for many yrs. to relig. he was the first promin. layman wh. reject. conform. to the ceremon. of the ch. of Eng. He was in the employm. of the crown, however, as postmaster bef. Apr. 1594, at Scrooby, above a doz. yrs. after leav. London; there he m. the w. (9551) Mary. With his young friend, Bradford, after a doz. yrs. to be made Gov. of New Plymouth and others, he pass. a. 1607 or 8, into Holland for enjoym. of worship without the many idle forms, on wh. King James had set his heart, and was rul. Elder of the ch. at Leyden of wh. John Robinson was teach. as he had been prob. at Scrooby.
"His ds. (4775) Patience and (9551_iv) Fear, came in the Ann, 1623; and on 5 Aug. of next yr. Patience m. (4774) Thomas Prence, afterwards the gov. and d. 1634; and Fear m. 1626, (9551_iv[1]) Isaac Allerton, as his sec. w. and d. 1633. His w. d. bef. 1627; and Gov. Bradford says the s. (9551vi) Wrestling d. bef. never m. He had early rem. to Duxbury, and there, under the same roof with (9551v) Love, d. 16 Apr. 1643, after one day's illness.
"His inv. has proof in the titles of the books of honora. regard for letters. See Geneal. Reg. IV. 174. Bradford's Memoir of him is in Young's Chron. of the Pilgr. 461. See, also, Davis's Morton; Hunter's First Colonists of N. E., of wh. the best impres. is in -- James Savage, "A Genealogical Dictionary of The First Settlers of New England, Before 1692" c/o http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/newengland/savage/
"BREWSTER, ...(9551ii) JONATHAN, Plymouth, eldest s. of (9550) Elder William, b. at Scrooby, in Co. Notts, on the road to Doncaster in Yorksh. from wh. it is only 12 or 13 miles dist. in a manor belong. to the archbp. of York, under wh. his gr.f. was tenant on long lease, had been instruct. only by his glorious f. either in his native ld. or the doz. yrs. resid. in Holland, where he was left by the Elder to take care of two sis. with his own fam.
Without the sis. he came in the Fortune 1621, in June 1636, was in command of the Plymouth trading, ho. on Conn. riv. and gave notice to John Winthrop, gov. of the fort at Saybrook, in a letter in my posses. of 18 June, of the evil designs of the Pequots; [[vol. 1, p. 245]] rem. to Duxbury, of wh. he was rep. 1639, the earliest assemb. of deputies in that Col. thence to New London, bef. 1649, there was selectman, d. bef. Sept. 1659, hav. in Sept. 1656 project. to ret. to Eng. with his fam.
"By w. (9551ii[1]) Lucretia, he had William, and Mary, both, prob. but the first, certain. b. in Holland; Jonathan; Benjamin, bef. ment.; also, Grace, Ruth, Hannah, and perhaps Elizabeth some of these b. prob. at New London. Mary m. 12 Nov. 1645, John Turner of Scituate; Elizabeth m. a. 1654, Peter Bradley; Grace m. 4 Aug. 1659, Daniel Wetherill; Hannah m. 23 Dec. 1664, Samuel Starr; and Ruth m. John Picket, and next, Charles Hill, and d. 30 Apr. 1677."
-- James Savage, op. cit.
"ALLERTON, ...(9551iv[1]) ISAAC, one of the pilgr. in the Mayflower, at Plymouth, 1620, at one time the richest of the Co. was an Assist. 1621, the sole officer for three yrs. under the Gov. He brot. w. Mary, wh. was call. Collins, from Newbury, Co. Berks, m. at Leyden, 4 Nov. 1611, the same day that his wid. sis. m. there Digory Priest; three ch. Bartholomew, Remember, and Mary. His w. d. 25 Feb. after land. and he m. 1626, (9551iv) Fear, d. of (9550) Elder William Brewster, by wh. he had (9551iv_a) Isaac, H. C. 1650; and prob. no more.
"This w. d. 1633, and when he liv. at New Haven, 1646, he had third w. Joanna, wh. is honor. after d. of her h. as having giv. shelter to the regicides, Goffe and Whalley, tho. with the usual felicity of tradit. the merit was ascrib. to her gr.d. (then a small ch.) and liv. to 1684. As agent for the Co. he went to Eng. three or four times, but gave not satisfact. in the latter visit; and on his private business was oblig. to go, more than once, of all wh. large statem. is seen in the Hist. of Bradford.
"In 1643, the Dutch, with wh. he had passed some yrs. having lost the confid. of his early friends bef. 1631, would employ him, with Underhill, to raise from the Eng. a force for their protect. against the Ind. but soon after he was sett. at New Haven, and there d. 1659, insolv. Largely he had speculat. at the Eastward and soon after dismiss. from the Plymouth agency, had a trading-house at Machias, destroy. 1633 by the French, met various disasters by shipwrecks of his fishing vessels, in prosecution of wh. business he sometime was engaged at Marblehead, and join. Salem ch. 1647; but seems almost always unlucky.
"His eldest s. Bartholomew m. and liv. in Eng. as Bradford first taught us; Remember m. Moses Maverick of Salem; and Mary m. Elder Thomas Cushman, and d. 1699, the last surv. of the blessed band of the first ship, for wh. we may feel suffic. esteem without accept. the report of her being " over 90 yrs. old." Sarah was the name often ascrib. to Maverick's w. and Young's Chronicles of the Pilgrims, Russell's Guide to Plymouth, the accos. of Judge Davis, in his Ed. of Morton's Memor. of Dr. Bacon in 3 Mass. Hist. Coll. VII. 243, and of Cushman in Geneal. Reg. VIII. 265-70, are all subject to no little correction since the contempo. Hist. of Bradford has been brot. to light."
-- James Savage, op. cit.
Zachary Taylor was the sixth cousin, thrice removed (64/M), of (9) Emma Rosetta Duncan (Emma descendant) through William and Mary Brewster
"BREWSTER, ...(9551v_b) WRESTLING, Duxbury, br. of Nathaniel of the same, had, with his br. (9551v_c) William, gr. of lds. (in honor of the rever. serv. of their gr.f. dec.) at Swanzey, provid. they went there to liv.; but I presume neither of them accept. the favor, as they cont. at D. By w. (9551v_b[1]) Mary he had sev. ch. and d. 1 Jan. 1697. He was constable in 1680, and serv. on jury in 1682 and 4. Ten of this name had been gr. at N. E. coll. in 1834."
"BREWSTER, ...(9551v_c) WILLIAM, Duxbury, s. of (9551v) Love, m. 2 Jan. 1673, (9231i_c) Lydia, d. of (9231i[1]) George Partridge, and d. 3 Nov. 1723. Whether he had ch. is not kn. but he was in good esteem, and was rep. 1675."
"BREWSTER, ...(9551v) LOVE, Plymouth, s. of (9550) Elder William, b. prob. in Holland, possib. in Eng. came, with his f. in the Mayflower, rem. to Duxbury, m. 15 May 1634, (9551v[1]) Sarah, d. of William Collier, had Sarah, wh. m. 1656, Benjamin Bartlett; Nathaniel; (9551v_c) William; and (9551v_b) Wrestling,. He d. not long after his will of 1 Oct. 1600, and his wid. m. (9551v[1][2]) Richard Park of Cambridge, and, after his d. 1665, went back to Duxbury."
"BREWSTER, ...(9551vi) WRESTLING, Plymouth, youngest s. of the gr. (9550) Elder, b. prob. at Leyden, in Holland, came with [[vol. 1, p. 247]] his f. in the Mayflower, d. "a young, man unm." bef. his f. says Gov. Bradford, but Caulkins, in Hist. of Norwich, 115, refers to an idle tradit. that makes him ancest. of Sir Christopher Brewster of our days. "Sir Christopher perhaps may descend from a gr.s. of the Elder and youngest s. of Love, wh. rec. this name, prob. sev. yrs. after d. of his uncle. In a very agreea. Memoir of the "Life and Time of Elder Brewster," by Rev. Ashbel Steele, Phila. 1857, the author too casi. assum. that this s. of the great Elder was of Portsmouth 1629, and built up his case on three piles of fictitious paper: The first, a forged deed of 6 Dec. 1629 ( wh. fell on Sunday), of ld. in Portsmouth, that was not so call. bef. May 1653, but always Strawberry Bank, with prob. false grantor and witnesses, and Writ. in language of one hundred and fifty yrs. later use;
"next, a fabricat. fam. rec. whereby it is shown, that Wrestling B. was m. 1630 to E. S. had s. John, b. 20 Jan. 1631, and daur. 3 May 1636, nam. Love Lucretia ! ! ! and the w. d. in childbed, thirty-eight yrs. after (perhaps the ch. had it liv. would have seem. to require double name, and so been bapt. Mephistophiles Beelzebub); that E. S. the w. is call. d. of Augustine Story, one of the illustrious grantees in the more ambitious forgery of the Wheelwright deed of all New Hampsh. from the Ind. made also on Sunday in an earlier mo. of the same yr. and little more than eight yrs. after Wrestling came over the Atlantic, with his f.;
"and the third fountain of evidence is from many, near. all spurious, accounts of business transactions, wh. by patient investigat. are found to be almost wholly fanciful. In his new Ed. Mr. Steele will, no doubt, correct those childish fictions of the last century."
-- James Savage, op. cit.b. 1586 St. Andrews Under, London, London, England
-> Sarah Allerton (ABT 1671-AFT 1731) Family: Hancock Lee (1653-1709)
--> Elizabeth Lee (ABT 1703-ABT 1750) Family: Zachary Taylor (1707-1768)
---> Col. Richard Lee Taylor (1743/44-1829) m. Sarah Dabney Strother (1760-1822)
----> Zachary Taylor, President of the United States (1784--1850)
4 Apr. 1654 Duxbury, Plymouth, MA
b. 27 Aug. 1670 CT
-- James Savage, op. cit.
-- James Savage, op. cit.
-- James Savage, op. cit.
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