KIMBALL & STONE LINES continued

INDEX

FOURTEENTH GENERATION

31683, 49770 9316. Henry Kimball/ Kembold

9317. Johanna unknown

REF: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9004/Kimball.html#hen;
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=glencoe&id=I37649 c/o Larry Overmire overmac@comcast.net

"(9316) Henry owned land in Salem Mass in 1670 and 1676, and in Bradford Mass in 1677/8."
-- http://www.rgreen.org.uk/Kembold.html

"Both (4658) Henry and (9317v) Richard travelled to America on the "Elizabeth" which left Ipswich, Suffolk on 10 Apr 1634, (William Andrews, master). Included on the passenger list were Richard, age 39, wife (9317v[1]) Ursula and children (9317v_a) Henry age 15, (9317v_c) Elizabeth age 13, (9317v_d) Richard age 11, (9317v_e) Mary age 9, (9317v_f) Martha age 5, (9317v_g) John age 3 and (9317v_h) Thomas age 1. Richard and Henry had with them also Ursula's mother (Martha) and brother's family (Thomas and Elizabeth, both age 40)."
-- http://www.rgreen.org.uk/Kembold.html#23a

The line of (9317v) Richard Kimball has been determined to be of Haplogroup G2a*, and to be related to later Kimbells in North Carolina, Kimbrels in Georgia and Kimballs in Virginia and Vermont. Other Kimball lines tested in the Kimble/Kimball Y-Chromosome Study (KYCS) are of haplogroups other than G. Sample #31683, from a descendant of Richard's son Benjamin, matches Ysearch (YSCH) user ID Q57MB53's results (also from a descendant of Richard) in 24/25 markers. This last user was further tested for subclades of G2a and found to be G2a3b. Another KYCS sample tested for over 25 markers, #49770 (from a descendant of Richard's son Richard), differs from the first in having a value of 17 for DYS 458. So far, no English samples are in the study, so connections to the Mother Country rely solely on the paper trail of wills and surveys, etc. In fact, I haven't seen any results for (4658) Henry's descendants yet: perhaps no male issue survives

[LAST REVISED 7 Nov. 2009]

Haplogroup

DYS
393

DYS
390

DYS
19/
394

DYS
391

DYS
385a

DYS
385b

DYS
426

DYS
388

DYS
439

DYS
389-1

DYS
392

DYS
389-2

DYS
458

DYS
459a

DYS
459b

DYS
455

DYS
454

DYS
447

DYS
437

DYS
448

DYS
449

DYS
464a

DYS
464b

DYS
464c

DYS
464d

KYCS#31683 /YSCH#Q57MB Richard Kimball b. 1595 Sufolk, England d. 1675 Ipswich, Essex, MA

G2a3b

14 22 14 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 16 9 9 11 11 22/
23
16 21 29 12 13 14 14

HaplogroupG (of which G2a3b is a subclade) is widespread at low frequency throughout western Eurasia, from India and China to the British Isles. It is generally thought to have originated in the Middle East, and its greatest concentrations can be found in N. Ossetia and Georgia in the Caucasus region, and the Torgay district of N. Kazakhstan. The oldest known remains of Hg G were found in Bavaria, and are estimated to have been buried around 670 AD. The two samples were G2a*, but matched our Kembold DNA on only 64-77% of the 7-10 markers, respectively, that could be compared.

Suffolk County, England, was inhabited in turn by ancient Britons, Celts, Romans, Angles, Danes and Normans. The most likely candidates for our ancestors were Sarmato-Scythian auxiliaries among the Roman soldiers stationed in Britain and other frontier areas. The highest concentration of G2a3b is in Wales, to which the Roman remnants were driven by the invading Anglo-Saxons; and there is another high concentration in S. Germany /Switzerland. G2a3b is calculated to have separated from the main G population in the Caucasus around 2000 years ago, consistent with this hypothesis. The inhabitants of North Ossetia, the principal "G-men" in the homeland region, are primarily of Hg G2a1a, which separated from G2a3b long before Roman times, so these people (who are associated with the Caucasian Alans), are not the source of the Kimball DNA. A recently analyzed (unidentified) small minority group in the Caucasus does match the Kimball strain, however, so one may conclude that the hypothetical Roman auxiliaries were of a Sarmato-Scythian tribe that had been displaced westward by the Ossetians.

The map below shows the spread of the various G clades and sub-clades. A circle is notably absent from Britain, because the G2a3b sub-clade found there (to which our Kimballs belong) is of minor significance compared to the other sub-clades -- of which one, G2a3-U8 (probably connected with ehe Alan-Vandal migration of around 400 CE), is predominant. The presence of G2a in places as far afield as India and Libya indicates a spread during pre-Roman times: sometimes as conquerors (as, for instance, the Saka invaders of India), and other times as slaves, traders and auxiliaries.

9318. David Stone

1 J. Gardiner Bartlett, "Descendants of Deacon Gregory Stone of Cambridge, MA", p. 13 c/o http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:a11584&id=I0923
2 Mary W. S. Soper, "Roper Family Bible", p. 110 (1982) c/o above
3(no source given) c/o http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:347882&id=I02306
Note that none of the above are primary sources.

9319. Ursula (/Ussala) unknown


Gregory Stone marker
erected by descendants
  • 24133 v. Gregory Stone
    • c. 19 Apr. 1592 Great Bromley, Tendring, Essex, England
    • d. 30 Nov. 1672 i. Cambridge, Middlesex, MA
    • m(1): Margaret Garrard 20 July 1617 Nayland, Suffolk, England
      • b. 5 Dec. 1597 Nayland, Suffolk, England
      • d. 5 May 1683 Cambridge, Middlesex, MA
      • Father: Thomas Garrard s/o Jn of Nayland
      • Mother: Christian Frende of Nayland

      REF: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~walkersj/GRGSTN.JPG


  • Marker of (9319v[1]a) John
    Stone
    , displaying typical
    early New England motif
    • 24133 a. John Stone, Deacon
      • c. 31 July 1618 Nayland, Suffolk, England
      • d. 10 Mar. 1712 Ipswich, Essex, MA
      • m. Ann Howe 1639
        • b. ABT 1623 prob. Boxted, Essex, England
        • d. MA
        • Father: Edward Howe s/o E & An Lumpkins
        • Mother: Margaret Wells d/o Rob & Marg Boshebe

    REF: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2983230&id=I581059821 c/o Priscilla Arnold ptilda@yahoo.com

    "Any relationships between (9319v) Gregory, (9318[1]a) John, (9288) Simon and (9318[1]a1) Samuel Stone, are ambiguous on some genealogical records. After reading many sources of information, I find some obscurity toward the father of Samuel Stone and will offer a short elucidation of my own personal thoughts.

    "No less [sic] that [sic] ten people named John Stone emigrated to New England in the mid seventeenth century, and controversy exists over who was the John Stone of Guilford, Connecticut. Was he the son of the Reverend Samuel Stone, or his father? The Rhode Island branch of Stones, claim that a John Stone, age 40, came to Salem, Massachusetts in April 1635. He being from Hawkhurst England in the ship "Elizabeth", removing to Guilford, Connecticut. In the John Stone genealogy, claim is made to John being the son of the Rev. Samuel Stone, who came with William Leet to Guilford on May 20, 1639. In Mr. Trumbull's 'Memorial History of Hartford, Connecticut (whose rhetoric I have chosen to believe), we find stated that: 'John Stone, who is the father of Rev. Stone, was a[n] original proprietor at Hartford Connecticut' and 'had his home lot the west side of Front Street.' He also states that he was allotted land here but conveyed it to his son Samuel as a gift before 1640. He again states that , 'he removed to Guilford where he was one of the signers of the original compact.' At Hartford he was referred to as: 'Mr. John Stone' on the date of Sep. 16, 1639. Mr. Trumbull further claims that John, the son of Rev. Samuel who went to Harvard Collage in 1653 and returned to England, graduated from Cambridge College and not returning to New England. Other theories exist and the reader should refer to them before making their own deductions.

    "There is a possibility that (9318[1]a) John Stone was the child of (9318) David Stone of Great Bromley, Essex who was born there in 1540 and still living in 1597. David married first 10 July 1566, (9318[1]) Elizabeth Hewit, who d. abt. 1582. With her they had seven children, of whom their fourth child was named JOHN, bp. 6 Dec. 1573. The John Stone of this sketch was thought to have been born about 1571, so he could very well be the John Stone baptized in 1573. David Stone married abt 1584, as his second wife, (9319) Ursula (_______), and by her had four children of whom (9319v) Gregory Stone is one . If this assessment were correct, it would make John Stone of this sketch the half brother of Gregory Stone."

    -- Richard M. Clark rclark001@ cenurytel.net c/o http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=clarkrm&id=I702

    The Stones of Cambridge have been determined through Family Tree DNA to be of Haplogroup I1. Typical of the family is ID#24133, which is shown below for the first 25 markers:

    [LAST REVISED 29 Dec. 2009]

    Haplogroup

    DYS
    393

    DYS
    390

    DYS
    19/
    394

    DYS
    391

    DYS
    385a

    DYS
    385b

    DYS
    426

    DYS
    388

    DYS
    439

    DYS
    389-1

    DYS
    392

    DYS
    389-2

    DYS
    458

    DYS
    459a

    DYS
    459b

    DYS
    455

    DYS
    454

    DYS
    447

    DYS
    437

    DYS
    448

    DYS
    449

    DYS
    464a

    DYS
    464b

    DYS
    464c

    DYS
    464d

    #24133 (~Ysearch 75YZ6) Joseph Stone d. 19 July 1765 Farmington, CT <Nathaniel<Nathaniel<John<(9319v) Gregory

    I1

    13 23 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28 15 7 9 8 11 23 16 20 29 12 14 15 15

    Haplogroup I1 is commonly found in Scandanavia. Its presence in Suffolk and Essex are most likely attributable to either the Anglo Saxons or the Danes, both of which migrated to the area in large numbers. Because only a descendant of (9319v) Gregory was tested, the DNA results tell us nothing about which of the many John Stones in New England at the time was his father, nor where he came from.

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