THIRTEENTH GENERATION
4737. unknown (F)
i. (2368) Lt. John Ellis III
4738. Edmond/ Edward Freeman Sr.
"FREEMAN, ...EDWARD, Lynn, came in the Abigail 1635, aged 45, with others of the name, Mary, 50; John, 35; Thomas, 24; John, 9; and Cecilia, 4; all ent. at the custom ho. 17 June in London; but we kn. of six others for the same sh. ent. 1 July foll. viz. (4738) Edward, 34; his w. (4738[2]) Elizabeth 35; and four ch. not of Edward, but of Edmund, (4738ii) Alice, 17; (2386) Edmund, 15; (2369) Elizabeth 12; and (4738vi) John, 8.
"Who Mary and the four others were, that took their passage on the earlier day, is all unkn. as well as the Edward with w. Elizabeth. Conjecture will find no benefit from rec. it is thought; for we are not able to determine whether he brought a w. yet kn. that he had one at Sandwich, but not her name. Presume we may (from his will of 21 June 1682, pro. 2 Nov. foll. naming s. Edmund, John, and (4769x) Edward Perry, as the w. of Edward Perry was (47391x) Mary), that he had m. on this side of the water, a wid. Perry, tho. Mr. Winsor tool; a diverse view, as if E. P. had m. a d. of Freeman. No d. is ever ment. in this country, exc. the two found in the old rec. of the London custom ho. Alice, wh. m. 24 Nov. 1639, deac. (4738ii[2]) William Paddy, and d. at Plymouth, 24 Apr. 1651; and Elizabeth wh. m. a. 1645, (2368) John Ellis. An Elizabeth F. wh. d. at Sandwich, 14 Feb. 1676, may have been the fellow passeng. call. in the rec. w. of Edward, but while we are ignor. wh. Edward was, or where he liv. or if indeed the name be not a delusion on the rec. there may be possibil. of her being the w. of Edmund.
"Dr. Palfrey found gr.stones ;; of many of this fam. name at Benefield in Northamptonsh. but the late Rev. Dr. James Freeman understood from fam. tradit. that he as deriv. from Devonsh. On the first arr. of Edmund with his assoc. at Sandwich, they call. the place Saugus, out of regard to the Ind. name of the place in Mass. whence they rem. He was an Assist. of the Col. 1640-46 incl. but why in foll. yrs. omit. is not guessed at, nor why among instances of longev. he is not cited, when many younger are."
-- James Savage, "A Genealogical Dictionary Of the First Settlers of New England, Before 1692" c/o http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/newengland/savage/
"(4738) Edmond Freeman was Assistant Governor of Plymouth Colony under Bradford and Winslow 3 Mar 1640-1646. (9577iii) Edward Winslow (Jr.) wrote to Gov. John Wintrop in Boston that
'I suppose the country left (4738) Freeman out in regard of his professed Anabaptistry and separacon from the Churches'.
On a committee to view and appoint meadow lands, 2 Jun 1640, [Freeman was] appointed 'to heare and determine all causes and controversies within the 3 townships.' In 1645 he signed a petition supporting tolerance of religion in the Plymouth Colony: 'full and fre tolerance of religion to all men that wil preserve the civil peae and submit unto the government... no limitation or exception against Turk, Jew, Papist, Arian, Socinian, Nicolaitan, Familist, or any other.' This motion was fought by Governor Bradford and [(4774) Thomas] Prence (III) and others and they caused it to be tabled...
"[(4738) Freeman was] Constable in Sandwich 4 Jun 1651. [He was] brought to court on 7 Oct 1651 for not frequenting the publick worship of God. [On 22 Oct 1656,] (4752) Thomas Tupper Sr. released Edmond Freeman from 'all manner of accounts, specialties and demands from the beginning of the world to this present day"... (4738) Edmond lost his Assistant Governonship in 1659 when his 'liberal' views on religious toleration of Quakers and others was revealed...'
"Richard Bourne and (2372) Myles Black [were] appointed to purchase from the Indians land that had been granted to Edmond Freeman and (9744iv) Mr. [William] Paddy's children in a cedar swamp on 4 Aug 1663.
On 24 Feb 1678, he gave his house, orchard and land nearby to his grandson (2369vii) Mathias Ellis... because of the help Matthias had given him in his old age. His estate [was] inventoried at 161 pounds by (4770) Thomas Burge, (III) and (2372) Mikaell Blackwell...
"[(4739vi) Maj. John Freeman II willed to] his Negro man Toby a cow, a small iron pot and his oldest clothes and to both Toby and Bess their freedom. He instructed his chidren to put them into such a way that they would not want."
-- http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/rturner1/d1651.htm#P290
"I have a book on the history of the town of Duxbury, Mass. with a genealogical register. Here is some info I found on your family.
"FREEMAN
"1. Mr. Edmund, Lynn, 1632, Duxbury, Sandwich, 1637, died 1682 leaving an esate of L180 (180 pounds). Had children: Edmund, m. Rebecca PRENCE, 1646; John, m. Mary PRENCE on Feb 14,1649; Alice, m.1639 to Deacon William PADDY; m. (2) Samuel WENSLEY; a daughter, m. Edward PERRY; Elizabeth, m. Mr. Ellis (the father of Mathias)."
-- http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?alice,paddy::freeman::5097.html c/o Marcy
"East Grinstad, Sussex, 6 Oct. 1624, inquiry named land including some in Stanstead. That shows John HODSOLL's son John; daus. Katharine, aged 34+, wf/o Warnerd NORWOOD; Bennett, 31 +, wf/o Edmund FREEMAN; Christian, 27+, wf/o Wm. FREEMAN; & decd. daus. Eliz. SCALES & Ann SHEFFIELD...
"In 1633, Edmund FREEMAN brought suit in Sussex Chancery on behalf of his children against Wm. HODSOLL, et al, relatives of his wf. Bennett, decd."
-- http://genforum.genealogy.com/hodsoll/messages/3.html
"At Pulborough, Sussex, children of Edmund FREEMAN, who was bu. 6 Je. 1623:
"Edmund, bpt. 25 July 1596.
-- http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?edward,edmond,pulborough,abigail::freeman::3859.html
{Wm., bpt. not found, but in parents' wills}
Alice, bpt. 15 Apr. 1601.
Eleanor, bpt. 25 Aug. 1603, bu. 7 Apr. 1618.
John, bpt. 29 Jan. 1606/7.
Elizabeth, bpt. 27 Aug.1609."
"BOURNE, ...(4740) THOMAS, early at Marshfield, may prob. have come from Co. Kent, bring. fam. hav. been at Plymouth 1637, freem. of that col. 2 Jan. 1638, had w. (4741) Elizabeth bur. 18 July 1660, aged 70, was a man of substance and repute, d. a. 1664, aged 83, leav. wid. (4740[2]) Martha, ch. prob. all by w. Elizabeth (2370) John, above ment.; (4612[2]) Martha, wh. m. 1. (4612[2][1]) John Bradford, s. of the Gov. 2. (4612) Thomas Tracey, d. at Norwich 1689; (4741vi) Elizabeth m. 9 Dec. 1638, (4741vi[1]) Robert Waterman; (4741ii) Ann, m. 21 June 1640, (4741v[1]) Nehemiah Smith; (4799) Margaret m. (4798) Josiah Winslow, br. of (9577iii) Gov. Edward; and (4741iv) Lydia m. (4741iv[1]) Nathaniel Tilden. His will of 2 May 1664, made s. (2370) John excor. names ea. d. and Lydia, d. of Lydia, beside John, Thomas, Joseph, and Robert Waterman, and Mr. Arnold, his min."
4741. Elizabeth unknown (NOT Rouse)
"TILDEN, ...(4741viii[1]) NATHANIEL, Scituate, came in the "Hercules" 1635 from Sandwich, in Co. Kent, being one of an old fam. at Tenterden, near Cranbrook, in that shire, bring. w. Lydia, seven ch. and seven serv. He may have visit. our country bef. and went home to bring his household; but it does not appear by any facts. In May 1637, with his friend Hatherly, he was appoint. by Plymouth Col. to sett. the bounds betw. it and Mass. He was rul. elder in the ch. and d. 1641, the inv. being of 31 July, and his will of 25 May preced. in that yr. It names his w. (4741viii) Lydia, perhaps d. of 4740) Thomas Bourne of Marshfield, yet m. in Eng. to wh. he gives his ho. at Tenterden, all the seven ch. Joseph; Thomas, b. a. 1621; Mary, the w. of Thomas Lapham, m. 13 Mar. 1637; Sarah, the w. of George Sutton; Judith; Lydia; and Stephen; also two serv. wh. should serve his eldest s. Judith m. Abraham Preble, and Lydia m. Richard Garrett."
"TILDEN, ...(4741vi[2]) THOMAS, Marshfield, prob. s. of the elder Nathaniel, b. at Tenterden, Co. Kent, was old eno. in 1643 to bear arms, when he liv. at Scituate; at M. his w. (4741vi) Elizabeth whose f. is not ascert. d. or was bur. 12 Dec. 1663; and his d. Susanna was bur. 9 Sept. 1684; and s. John d. 20 Apr. 1685; but one or both may have been ch. of that Mary Holmes, maid or wid. is unkn. m. 24 Jan. 1665."
"Re: Elizabeth Bourne & ancestors
"From Marriages and Deaths, NEHGSR, Jan 1860,vol.14, p.82
Thomas (1581) and Elizabeth Bourne granted estate (Marshfield) Dec 4, 1637 by the Court of the Old Colony. Their children were:
Thomas Bourne, eldest son of John, b Oct 27, 1647 m 1 Elizabeth Rouse April 16, 1681; she was dau of John and Anice(Pabodie) Rouse of Marshfield she deceased April 9, 1701. He m 2 Elizabeth Holmes, Nov 2, 1702
From NEHGSR, vol 11, p. 198: THE LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT OF JOHN PAYBODY. ..."Annis Rouse my daughter..."
Don Timmons
-- http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?tilden::bourne::769.html
-- James Savage, "A Genealogical Dictionary of The First Settlers of New England, Before 1692" c/o http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/newengland/savage/
REF: http://www.familysearch.org/Search/af/ancestral_file_frame.asp?recid=15257784
-- James Savage, op. cit.
REF: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3174631&id=I4256
-- James Savage, op. cit.
Posted by: Donald Timmons (timmdon@earthlink.net) Date: April 28, 2002 at 12:36:03
In Reply to: Elizabeth Bourne & ancestors by Darla of 1047
4742. Thomas Bisbee, Deacon
"BESBEDGE, BESBITCH, or BEESBEECH, ...(4742) THOMAS, Scituate, came in the "Hercules" 1635, with six ch. and three serv. emb. at Sandwich, Co. Kent, was deac. of the first ch. of S. that he join. 30 Apr. 1637, but rem. to Duxbury, prob. for the relig. quarrels at S. was rep. for D. 1643. He was, by Deane, suppos. to d. early, but he had rem. again, and d. at Sudbury, 9 Mar. 1674. His will, of 20 Nov. 1672, pro. 7 Apr. 1674, is copious in geneal. inform. tho. begin. with order. for bur. his body at E. end of the ch. gives gr.s. Thomas, eldest s. of d. (4743iv) Mary, w. of (4743iv[1]) William Brown of Sudbury, all the ho. and lds. in the parishes of Hedcorn, and Frittenden, [[vol. 1, p. 172]] Co. Kent, in O. E. names gr.-gr.childr. Mary, Thankful, and Patience, ds. of said Thomas Brown, also other ch. of his d. Mary, seven in num. viz. William, Edmund, Hopestill, Susanna, Elizabeth Sarah, beside the eldest Mary, w. of Benjamin Rice of S. and her s. Ebenezer, his gr.-gr.ch. also d. (2371) Alice, w. of (2370) John Bourne of Marshfield, m. 18 July 1645, and her s. (2371ii) Thomas, the oldest ch. and (1185) Sarah, the youngest, and the other sis. without more exact designat. also Experience, s. of Joseph and Elizabeth Bent; made William and Edmund, s. of his d. Mary, excors. and Capt. Hopestill Foster of Dorchester, overseer. His d. (2371) Alice d. May 1686. In rec. of O. E. this name is very common. Besbeech, but in N. E. is become Bisby or Bisbee."
"BESBEDGE, BESBITCH, or BEESBEECH, (4743i) ELISHA, Scituate, by Deane presum. to be s. of (4742) Thomas, b. in Eng. came prob. with him, had Hopestill, b. 1645; John, 1647; Mary, 1648; Elisha, 1654; Hannah, 1656; all bapt. at sec. ch. in S. and Deane also gives him Martha, wh. m. 1677, Jonathan Turner. He rem. to Duxbury, and d. 12 Nov. 1695. Mary m. 15 Jan. 1678, Jacob Beals; and Hannah m. 1687, Thomas Brooks. His s. Elisha, acc. Winsor, d. 1715; but no more is told of him."
STEVENS, ...(4992?) FRANCIS [STEVENS LINE], Rehoboth 1658, had div. of lds. there in that yr. and ten yrs. later. His inv. of 1 Jan. 1670 shows that he was then d. and being call. sen. makes it prob. that he had s. (4743ii[1]) FRANCIS, Rehoboth, wh. had Gilbert, b. 26 Feb. 1675; and his w. Elizabeth was bur. six days aft"
-- James Savage, op. cit.
-- James Savage, op. cit.
-- James Savage, op. cit.
Blackwell is an Anglo-Saxon surname, first recorded in Derbyshire before 1100 AD REF: http://www.infokey.com/cgi-bin/getname Several researchers have tried in vain to find the ancestors of (2372) Michael Blackwell, otherwise known as "Miles Blacko"
"FISH, ...(4749iii) JONATHAN, Sandwich, br. of first (4749v) John, had liv. at Lynn, but at S. had Nathaniel, b. 18 Dec. 1650; John; and Samuel; rem. to Newtown, L. I. 1659, d. a. 1663. He was progenit. of Hamilton F. late gov. of N. Y."
"FISH, ...(4749v) JOHN, Lynn, rem. 1637 to Sandwich, carr. s. Jonathan, and Samuel, perhaps others; may have had Caleb, b. 18 Aug. 1649, wh. d. at 6 mos. or this may be s. of (4749iii) Jonathan or (2374) Nathaniel, went 1655 to New London, but back soon to S. and d. 1663."
-- James Savage, op. cit.
-- James Savage, op. cit.
The Fish name is of Anglo Saxon origin, first appearing in records in Yorkshire.
"MILLER, ...(4750) JOHN, Dorchester 1636, by some thot. not by me, perhaps s. of Richard the first, had sh. in 1637, says Harris, of the lds. in the neck, now South Boston; but he was rather of Roxbury, in my opinion, for there is rec. of his d. (4751ii) Mehitable, b. 12 July 1638, and with w. (4751) Lydia, he belonged to Eliot 's ch. of wh. he was an elder, was bred at Gonville and Caius Coll. Cambridge, where he took his A. B. 1627, freem. 22 May 1639, without the prefix of respect; brot. from Eng. (2398) John, b. Mar. 1632, perhaps had there other ch. or aft. coming here, may have had at Roxbury, or at Rowley, some not ment. went to be min. 1639 at Rowley, and was also the first town clk. there, where he had (2375) Lydia, b. 2 Feb. or 12 Apr. 1640, as the numerals are read both ways, contin. only two or three yrs. and "
-- James Savage, op. cit.
INDEX
4751. Lydia Combs/ Coombs (Elliot)
REF: http://www.familysearch.org/Search/af/ancestral_file_frame.asp?recid=6905726
s/o Ric & Dor Jones
= siblings
ELLIS & BOURNE LINES continued
FISH & MILLER LINES continued
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