LAKE & SMIT LINES continued

INDEX

TWELFTH GENERATION

2280. Richard Lake

2281. unknown (F)

To date, there has been much speculation about the parents of (1140) John Lake /Jan Leeck. The connection between the Gravesend Lakes and others in or from England or the Netherlands could be (but hasn't so far been, ) solved simply by DNA analysis. The Gravesend clan has been well studied; and the probable haplotype of the common ancestor (John Lake of Gravesend, NY) is as follows:

Haplogroup

DYS
393

DYS
390

DYS
19/
394

DYS
391

DYS
385
a

DYS
385
b

DYS
426

DYS
388

DYS
439

DYS
389
-1

DYS
392

DYS
389
-2

DYS
458

DYS
459
a

DYS
459
b

DYS
455

DYS
454

DYS
447

DYS
437

DYS
448

DYS
449

DYS
464
a

DYS
464
b

DYS
464
c

DYS
464
d

prob. haplotype of John Lake, b. ABT 1615, of Gravesend, Kings, NY c/o http://mlake.net/lakedna/

[prob R1b]

13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 16 17

#141008 desc. of Thomas Lake, b. ABT 1660 d. 1727 Stratford, CT c/o http://mlake.net/lakedna/

[prob R1b]

13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 12 13 28 15 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 17 17

All the project participants who were verifiably or presumably descended from John Lake of Gravesend gave results close to the "Gravesend modal" haplotype, and none of those whose lines derived from elsewhere had results compatible with having a common ancestor with John in the recent past. On the other hand, I can't discern any participants having been descended from John Lake and Margaret Reade of North Benfleet, nor of any of that John's presumed ancestor; so the DNA results do not clearly demonstrate that (1140) John was NOT a son of that couple.

The closest sample I could find for comparison was #141008, who claimed descent from Thomas Lake (~1660-1727) of Stratford, CT. (shown above). He was b. 1656/57 and m. Sarah Peat, and has no record of connection to either the Boston/ New Haven merchants, to Martha of Essex, or to John of Gravesend. Thomas's yDNA was matched by a descendant of John H[enry] Lake, b. 1821 CT. He appears in the 1850 Census for New York City, a boatswain from CT, with wife Marg[ar]et J[ane Hill] and son Cassady W[ilkes] Lake. As I've shown, none of these CT Lanes are related to those of Gravesend; but this says nothing about the possible Essex connection.

"After the publication of 'The Lake Family' Dr. Arthur Adams, of Trinity College, Hartford, Connecticut, visited England and made the acquaintance of Rev.W. H. Oliver Lake, of West Hill Hall, Harrow on the Hill, Middlesex, ...The item of most interest in the exc hange with The Rev. Oliver is his conjecture that John Lake of Gravesend probably was of Tring, in Hertfordshire, England, son of Richard Lake, of Tring. This John (Lake) was baptized Feb. 11, 1615 or 1616, matriculated, at Oxford in 1634, but did not take a degree. A Daniel Lake of Tring, in his will of Dec. 29, 1642 left 60 pounds to his brother John who was then of Leighton, Buzzard, Bedfordshire. The Rev. Oliver Lake surmises that this legacy may have paid John Lake`s passage t o America."

-- http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=4brownfamily&id=I022

Most online genealogies have (1140) John Lake /Jan Leeck's parents as John & Margaret Lake of Wickford, Essex. The younger John probably died, though, in 1657 (while the Gravesend Jan Leeck was quite alive):

"[Jn & Mgt's son] Thomas] is not named in his grandfather,,,'s will dated 20 Nov 1623, so it is most probable that he died before his 4th birthday. John and Margaret's other living children are named in Edward's will so I think that this is a likely conclusion. It is possible, however, that he also could have been the son of John and Margaret who was mentioned as dead by Mrs. Lucy Downing, when she wrote on 30 Jan 1657/8 from Edinburgh to Fitz John Winthrop: "Your uncle, Collonell Reade, was a month or two since with us, ... and said that God had takne a sonn of his sister (2281) Lackes that was with him, and was very hopefull for further preferment." In my opinion, it would seem more likely that this Thomas died as a child and the son who died in 1657 was their other son, John."
-- http://genforum.genealogy.com/lake/messages/1257.html

The Tring connection is buttressed by the name "Daniel" is preserved in (1140) John's children and grandchildren as a namesake -- more than even the name "John.

2282. Thomas Spicer

  • c. 3 Feb. 1591/92 Barfreston, Kent, England
  • will 29 Sep. d. ABT 4 Nov. 1658 Gravesend, Kings, NY
  • liv. 16 July 1638 Newport, RI
  • Treasurer of Portsmouth[, RI] 1642
  • liv. 1643 New York Co., NY
  • Religion: Anabaptist, associate of Lady Deborah Moody
  • m(1): (2283) Anne Grant 4 Feb. 1626/27 St. Mary's, Sandwich, Kent, England
  • m(2): Michal unknown (F)
    • Family (1): unknown Jenkins (M)

"SPICER, ...(2282) THOMAS, Newport, sign. the compact, at the same time with Nicholas Easton, 16 July 1638."
-- James Savage, op. cit.

2283. Anne Grant

  • c. 21 Oct. 1605 St. Marys, Sandwich, Kent, England
  • d. 29 Sep 1635 England (did not come to America)
  • Family: (2282) Thomas Spicer
  • i. (1141) Anne Spicer
  • ii. Susanna Spicer
    • b. 1628 of Barfreston, Kent, England
    • will 10 July 1694
    • sold lot 1691 S of Wolpherts Meadow, New York, NY
    • Family (1): William Walters [/Wathens]
      • [b. ABT 1624]
      • d. BEF 1644
    • Family (2): Henry Bresier /Brazier 9 Oct. 1644 New Amsterdam, New York, NY ("...Brasher, of Essex", to wid Walters")
      • c. [poss. 30 Aug. 1618 Nazeing], Essex, England
      • will 23 Apr. 89 w.p. 4 Feb. 1690/91 Gravesend, Kings, NY
      • patent 4 Sep. 1645 Brooklyn, Kings, NY
      • [Father: poss. William Brasior of Nazeing
      • Mother: poss. Mary Wikinsonne (neither verified)]

      "(2283ii[2]) Henry is mentioned as being an Englishman in a slander case, (see below - 2 Oct 1648), however he is also referred to as being Dutch (see... 1674 List of owners).

      "'2 Oct 1648 - Sentence. Jan Teunisen, for slandering Harry Breser, an Englishman, and running away, taking with him the company’s ferry boat, to work 100 days for the company, and 50 for the church, and to give bail for the faithful performance of his work.'
      "['Calendar of Historical Manuscripts., Sec. State New York' by Edmund O'Callaghan, pg 120 - Dutch Manuscripts Vol.IV, pg.418.]"

      -- http://www.simonpg.com/d303.htm

  • iii. Martha Spicer
    • c. 24 Oct. 1630 St. Peter, Sandwich, Kent, England
    • d. 27 Mar. 1634
  • iv. unknown Spicer (M)
    • b. ABT Sep. 1635 of St. Peter, Sandwich, Kent, Entgland
    • d. 25 Sep. 1635
  • v. unknown Spicer (F)
    • b. ABT Sep. 1635 of St. Peter, Sandwich, Kent, Entgland
    • d. 25 Sep. 1635
  • vi. Samuel Spicer
    • c. 30 July 1637 St. Peters, Sandwich, Kent, England
    • will 18 Sep. 1692 w.p. 12 Mar. 1700 Gloucester, [Cape May,?] NJ
    • Religion: prob. Anabaptist; Father and F-I-L were both associates of Lady Deborah Moody
    • m. Esther Tiltan 21 May 1665 Oyster Bay, [Nassau, NY]
      • b. 21 May 1647 Gravesend, Kings, NY
      • d. 24 Gravesend, Kings, NY i. 26 Sep 1703 Newton Graveyard, Gloucester Co., NJ
      • Father: John Tilton
      • Mother: Mary Goodie (1620-83) of Esx MA->NJ
  • vii. Peter Spicer
    • b. ABT 1644 Stepney, London, England
    • i. 1694 New London, New London, CT
    • m. Mary Busecot 15 Dec. 1670 Warwick, Providence, RI
      • b. ABT 1648 Warwick, Providence, RI
      • d. 13 Sep. 1715 New London, New London, CT
      • Father: Peter Busecot (~1608~92) of Devon & RI
      • Mother: Mary May (~1615-) of Devon

    "SPICER, ...(2283vii) PETER, New London 1666, rem. to Norwich, d. prob. in 1695, or 6, his inv. being offer. in latter by w. (2283vii[1]) Mary, d. of Peter Busicot, m. 15 Dec. 1670. His ch. were Edward, Samuel, Peter, William, Joseph, Abigail, Ruth, Hannah, and Jane."
    -- James Savage, op. cit.

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"WILL OF THOMAS SPICER OF GRAVESEND:
Dated Sep 29, 1658, proved 4 Nov 1658.

"Wife (2282[2]) Michall and son (2283vi) Samuell Spicer, heirs and executors of all estate except the following legacies:

  • To (1141) Ann Lake, wife [sic - not "widow"] of (1140) John Lake, 60 gilders for the benefit of her three children.
  • To (2283ii) Susanna Brazier, wife of (2283ii[2]) Henry Brazier, 80 gilders for her four children.

-- http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/a/l/Dorene-Morris-Ohio/GENE3-0043.html

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WILL OF SUSANNAH (SPICER) BRASIER:

"In the Name of God, Amen, this 10 day of July, 1694, I, (2283ii) Susannah Brasier, of New York, being sound in body, and knowing that I am ordained to die. Having full power by the will of my late husband (2283ii[2]) Henry Brasier, dated April 23, 1689, to dispose of all the estate,
I give to my son Henry Brasier, one half of the land in the Smith's Vly, where he hath built upon during his life, and then to his daughter Susannah.
I leave to my son Isaac Brasier, the other half during his life, and then to his daughter Susannah.
I leave to my son Abraham my house and ground in this city on condition that it be appraised, and what it is worth more than the land in the Smith's Vly, the surplus is to be paid to my four daughters, and after his death the house and lot is to go to his son Henry.
Leaves household goods to her daughters Sarah and Susannah. Leaves to each of her grandchildren a silver spoon, value 10 shillings.
Leaves to Mary Barnes, daughter of Mary Brasier, a bedstead. To Susanah Brown a morning gown.
To grandchild Henry Brasier, son of Abraham, a silver cup. A piece of meadow at Maspeth Kills on Long Island "next to Butchers" is to be sold to pay burial expenses.
Makes her son Abraham and her friend Abraham Messier, executors."

-- http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/1665-1707.html

2284. Claes Nicolaes

  • b. ABT 1602 Amersfoort, Utrecht, Netherlands
  • d. Netherlands
  • m. (2285) unknown (F) 1629 Netherlands

2285. unknown (F)

2286. Jochem Willekens (?)

SRC: One World Tree (sm), Ancestry.com

2287. unknown (F)

THIRTEENTH GENERATION

4560. Wm. Lake

4561. unknown (F)

4564. Nicholas Spicer

  • b. 1545
  • w.p. 10 July 1607 Barbreston, Kent, England
  • m(1): unknown (F)
  • m(2): (4565) Martha Grant ABT 1584 Kent, England

4565. Martha Grant

  • c. 22 May 1564 Eythorne, Kent, England
  • mentioned in will of brother Thomas Grant
  • Family (1): (4564) Nicholas Spicer
  • i. Christine Spicer
    • c. 13 Feb. 1586 Barfreston, Kent, England
    • Family: Henry Sommers 1 July 1611
      • b. ABT 1585
  • ii. Martha Spicer
    • c. 2 Feb. 1589 Barfreston, Kent, England
    • prob. d. young
  • iii. (2282) Thomas Spicer
  • iv. Ursula Spicer
    • c. 21 Mar. 1596 Barfreston, Kent, England
    • Family: William Pickel
      • b. ABT 1596 of Barfreston, Kent, England
  • v. Martha Spicer
    • c. 30 May 1607 Barfreston, Kent, England
    • i. 27 Mar. 1634
  • Family (2): John Godfrey 6 Feb. 1608/09
    • b. ABT 1560 England

4566. Markus Grant /Graunte

4567. Gartherytt /Gertrude Boughton (F)

  • b. ABT 1585 St. Mary, Sandwich, Kent
  • i. 7 Mar. 1637 of St. Mary, Sandwich, Kent
  • Family: (4566) Markus Grant /Graunte
  • i. (2283) Anne Grant
  • ii. Elizabeth Grante
    • c. 20 Mar. 1607 St. Mary, Sandwich, Kent
    • d. 16 Aug. 1610
  • ii. Markes Grante
    • c. 25 Mar. 1610 St. Mary, Sandwich, Kent
    • d. 1 Apr. 1610

FOURTEENTH GENERATION

9130. Henry Grant /Graunte

  • b. ABT 1530 of Eythorne, Kent, England
  • d. 14/15 Jan. 1597/98
  • m. (9131) Alice Bedforde 9 June 1561 Eythorne, Kent, England

9131. Alice Bedforde

  • b. ABT 1536 of Eythorne, Kent, England
  • d. 13 i. 18 June 1605 Eythorne, Kent, England
  • Family: (9130) Henry Grant /Graunte
  • i. (4565) Martha Grant c. 1564
  • ii. Thomas Grant
    • c. 10 Feb 1565[/66] Eythorne, Kent, England
    • d. BEF 27 Oct. 1623
    • m. Mary Gookin 5 June 1615 Tilmanstone, Kent, England
      • b. 1568/69 Kent, England
      • Father: John Gookin, Gent s/o Tho & Amy Durrant
      • Mother: Catherine Denne d/o Wm & Agn Tufton
      • Family (1): Richard Marsh 12 July 1586 Northbourne, Kent
        • b. ABT 1564 of East Langdon, Essex
    • a. Elizabeth Grant
      • b. ABT 1616 of Tilmanstone, Kent
      • i. 25 July 1624
  • iii. Beatrice Graunt
    • c. 10 July 1569 Eythorne, Kent
    • d. 14 Oct. 1603
    • Family: unknown Gregory ABT 1580
      • b. ABT [1565] of Eythorne, Kent, England
  • iv. William Grant
    • c. 10 Mar. 1570[/71] Eythorne, Kent
  • v. Ann Grant
    • c. 4 July 1575 Eythorne, Kent
    • Family: Oliver Hammon [ABT 1600] Eythorne, Kent
      • b. ABT 1571 of Eythorne, Kent
      • d. 7 Mar. 1621
    • a. Elizabeth Hammon
      • b. [ABT 1605] of Eythorne, Kent, England
    • b. Anne Hammon
      • [poss. c. 27 May 1610 Houghan in Dover,] Kent
    • c. Joane Hammon
      • [poss. c. 3 May 1612 Hougham in Dover,] Kent
  • vi. Lawrence Grant
    • c. 4 Aug. 1577 Eythorne, Kent
    • d. BEF 15 Aug. 1656 Eythorne, Kent
    • m. Dorcas unknown ABT 1600 Eythorne, Kent
      • b. ABT 1577 Eythorne, Kent
      • liv. Aug 1656
  • vii. Edward Grant
    • c. 1 Nov. 1579 Eythorne, Kent

"The will of [(4565) Martha's] brother Thomas Grant names all his siblings and in each family of siblings, the name of Thomas comes through, possibly the father's name was Thomas Grant??"
-- http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?spicer::grant::816.html

"(4565) Martha Grant, b. 1560, Eythorne, Kent, Eng. was the d/o (9130) Henry Grant and (9131) Alice Bristowe [sic] of Eythorne, Kent. Martha was the second wife of Nicholas Spicer (1545-1607), m. ca 1584. I have a list of 5 children for this couple.
-- http://genforum.genealogy.com/grant/messages/4393.html

FIFTEENTH GENERATION

18260. Thomas Grant /Graunte

  • b. 1504 Kent, England
  • d. 10 Oct /29 Nov 1555 Eythorne, Kent, England
  • m. (18261) Cristian unknown (F) ABT 1529 Eythorne, Kent, England

18261. Cristian unknown (F)

REF: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2816969&id=I1620

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