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INDEX

FOURTEENTH GENERATION

8884. Jean de Forest

c. 1543 Avesnes, Nord, France
d. 1606 Vosmeer Nr Berge, Op Zoom, Noord Brabant, Netherlands
m. (8885) Ann Maillard 5 June 1570 Avesnes, Nord, France

8885. Anne Maillard

b. 1551 of Felleries, Hainaut, France
d. 21 Apr. 1640 Amsterdam, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Family: (8884) Jean de Forest
i. (4442) Jesse de Forest
ii. Melchior de Forest IV
- b. 1571 Avesnes, Nord, France
iii. Michel de Forest
- b. ABT 1582 Avesnes, Nord, France
v. Gerard de Forest
- b. 1583 Avesnes, Nord, France
- d. Aug. 1654 Leyden, Zuid Holland, Netherlands
- m. Esther de la Grange (ABT 1585-) 12 Aug. 1611 Leyden, Zuid Holland, Netherlands
iv. Anne/ Anna de Forest
- c. 1587 Avesnes, Nord, France
- Family: Jean le Fevre (ABT 1580-) 24 Jan. 1607 Amsterdam, Noord Holland, Netherlands
vi. Jeanna de Forest? (F)
- b. ABT 1587 Avesnes, Nord, France
vii. Jean de Forest (M)
- b. 1593 Avesnes, Nord, France

8886. Nicaise du Cloux

b. ABT 15(40/)48 of Sedan, Ardennes, France
m. (8887) Marie Aubertin ABT 1563

8887. Marie Aubertin

b. ABT 1554 of Sedan, Ardennes, France
Family: (8886) Nicaise du Cloux
i. (4443) Marie du Cloux

REF: http://www.gendex.com/users/pthree/SPRTS97/d0024/g0000009.html#I28936 http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/o/b/Steven-A-Robbins/GENE2-0014.html

8888. Jan de Hooges (/de Hoge)

b. ABT 1560 of Mechelen, Brabant, Belgium
m. (8889) Catharina de Draijere ABT 1585 Holland?

8889. Catharina de Draijere

b. ABT 1560 of Mechelen, Brabant, Belgium
Family: (8888) Jan de Hooges
i. (4444) Johannes de Hooges

REF: http://users.ids.net/~reveritt/d0001/g0000043.htm#I0450

8890. Antoni Tyron

b. ABT 1540 Thiron, Eure et Loire, France
m(1): unknown
m(2): (8891) Catharina Daneels 1574 Antwerp, Antwerpen, Belgium

8891 Catharina Daneels

b. ABT 1560 of Antwerp, Antwerpen, Belgium
Family: (8890) Antoni Tyron
i. Johannes /Hans Tiron/ Tierens
- c. 31 May 1572 Antwerp, Antwerpen, Belgium
ii. (4445) Maria Tijron

REF: http://revolution.3-cities.com/~gjansen/famwes.htm

8892. Andries Arentse Bradt

b. 1578/79 mouth of the Glommern River, Fredrickstad, Ostford, Norway
d. 1690 Schenectady, NY
m. (8893) prob. Eva/ Aeffie unknown

8893. prob. Eva/ Aeffie unknown

b. ABT 1583 of Fredrikstad, Ostford, Norway
Family: (8892) Andries Arentse Bradt
i. (4446) Albert Andriessen Bradt
ii. Arent Andriessen Bradt
- b. ABT 1615 Fredrikstad, Smaalenenes (now Ostfold), Norway /Schenectady, Schenectady, NY
- d. 1662/63 Schenectady, Albany, NY
- m. (9111ii) Catalyntje de Vos (1631-1705)1648 Rensselaerwyck, Albany, NY

REF: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/8448/dat0.htm#176

"Anyone who has done significant research on the Van Slyke (Van Slyck) and Bradt families has come across the story, promoted as fact by people like historian Nelson Greene, that a French trader named Jacques Hertel came to the Mohawk valley and there fathered two daughters by a Mohawk "princess." They were said to be named Ots-Toch and Kenutje, the former being "wild and savage like her mother while Kenutje was small and handsome and very white, like her father." Ots-Toch, in this tale, married Cornelis Van Slyck and Kenutje "married a Bradt."

In my research on the Bradt family, conducted over 20 years, I found many variations on this theme. At some point, "a Bradt" became the father of (8892ii) Arent Bradt born about 1615-1618, and Kenutje became his mother. The source of this elaboration has been lost in time, but many group sheets sent me by descendants of Arent Bradt show Kenutje as Arent's mother... (But) how was a man in Norway able to father two sons by an Indian mother in 1607 and about 1615? Why did both sons indicate by the naming of their children that their father was (8892) Andries and their mother (8893) Eva or Aeffie? Why were (4446) Albert and Arent referred to as Noorman (Norwegian or Northmen), not as half-breeds (or mixed-race, as we would say today)?"

(the author debunks the "Keuntje" theory).

-- Cynthia Brott Biasca, http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Stu/kluther/kinetis/myth1.html

8894. Barent Rottmer

b. 1585 Altenbruch (/Otterndorf), Hannover, Germany
d. 1632 NY (Age 47)
m. (8895) Geesje Barents ABT 1607 Altenbruch, Hannover, Germany

8895. Geesje /Gissel Barentsdochter

b. 1585/91 of Schleswig
d. BEF 12 Apr. 1658 (date of pall purchase) New Netherlands
lived Schaepensteegje, Amsterdam 1632
Arrived New Neth. on "Den Waterhondt" from The Texel, Neth. Fall, 1640. Settled in Fort Orange
Family (1): (8894) Barent Rottmer
Family (2): Pieter Jacobse Van Rynsburgh (ABT 1578-AFT 1658) BEF July, 1640 prob. Neth.
i. (4447) Annetje Barents Van Rotmer
ii. Barent Barents
- b. 1609/10 prob. Amsterdam, Noord Holland
- m. banns 21 Apr. 1632

REF: http://www.goodnet.com/~gjbivin/genealogy/updegraff/fam00431.htm; http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/albradt.htm; SRC: Scandanavian Immigrants to New York 1630-1674 by John O. Evjen. 1916; Bradt: A Norwegian Family in America by Peter R. Christoph

FIFTEENTH GENERATION

17768. Melchoir de Forest III

b. ABT 1520 Avesnes, Nord, France
d. 1571 Avesnes, Nord, France
Occupation: Merchant/ Draper
Religion: Roman Catholic
m. (17769) Catherine du Fosset 4 Apr. 1533/43 Avesnes, Nord, France

17769. Catherine du Fosset

[b. ABT 1520] of Avesnes, Nord, France
d. 1579 Avesnes, Nord, France
Family: (17768) Melchoir de Forest III
i. Antoine de Forest
- b. ABT 1539 Avesnes, Nord, France
ii. Gilles de Forest
- b. ABT 1539/40 Avesnes, Nord, France
iii. Jacqueline de Forest
- b. ABT 1547 Avesnes, Nord, France
iv. Francoise de Forest
- b. ABT 1545/50 Avesnes, Nord, France
v. Balthazar de Forest
- b. 1534 Avesnes, Nord, France
- d. AFT 1594
- m. Adrianne Marin (ABT 1541-) ABT 1565 France
vi. Melchoir de Forest
- b. 1541 Avesnes, Nord, France
- d. 1582
- m. Marie la Sur (ABT 1544-) ABT 1562 France
vii. Jaspard de Forest
- b. 1538 Avesnes, Nord, France
- d. Sep. 1579
viii. Antoine de Forest
- b. 1536/39 Avesnes, Nord, France
ix. (8884) Jean de Forest